In this episode, Ann Maree sits down with Julia Fillnow, a licensed counselor with expertise in trauma, abuse, and addiction, and her husband, Patrick Fillnow, a physician and church elder. Together, they explore the vital intersection of faith and mental health, advocating for a collaborative approach between biblical and clinical counseling. Julia delves into the significance of understanding human behavior through psychology and the necessity of precise diagnosis in clinical settings. Patrick brings his medical perspective, highlighting the deep connection between physical and mental health. They also candidly discuss the strengths and limitations of their professions, emphasizing the role of God, the importance of humility, and the pursuit of comprehensive care.