Dr Heather Evans – Expert Contributor
With insight, compassion, and conviction, Dr Evans reminds us that change begins not with a rescue, but with relationship—and that listening is an act of justice.
With insight, compassion, and conviction, Dr Evans reminds us that change begins not with a rescue, but with relationship—and that listening is an act of justice.
How Do You Listen Well to Hard Stories? | Safe to Hope Podcast
How do you prepare your heart and mind to hear stories of deep suffering without becoming overwhelmed — or walking away untouched?
In this today’s episode of the Safe to Hope podcast, Self-Care with Julia and Ann Maree, we pause before beginning this season’s difficult story to talk about something equally important: how to listen well.
Ann Maree is joined by licensed therapist and Help[H]er board member, Julia, to explore the weighty but necessary practice of bearing witness — not only to unimaginable trauma but also to the redemptive thread running through the darkness.
Together, they discuss what it means to listen with wisdom, vigilance, and compassion. You’ll hear practical self-care strategies, spiritual insights, and thoughtful encouragement for anyone who wants to enter into another’s story without losing themselves in the process.
Whether you’re a caregiver, pastor, counselor, advocate, or simply someone who desires to learn how to care well, this episode offers important guidance on how to hold hard stories — and hold yourself — with care.
How Do You Listen Well to Hard Stories?
How do you prepare your heart and mind to hear stories of deep suffering without becoming overwhelmed — or walking away untouched?
In this today’s episode of the Safe to Hope podcast, Self-Care with Julia and Ann Maree, we pause before beginning this season’s difficult story to talk about something equally important: how to listen well.
Ann Maree is joined by licensed therapist and Help[H]er board member, Julia, to explore the weighty but necessary practice of bearing witness — not only to unimaginable trauma but also to the redemptive thread running through the darkness.
Together, they discuss what it means to listen with wisdom, vigilance, and compassion. You’ll hear practical self-care strategies, spiritual insights, and thoughtful encouragement for anyone who wants to enter into another’s story without losing themselves in the process.
Whether you’re a caregiver, pastor, counselor, advocate, or simply someone who desires to learn how to care well, this episode offers important guidance on how to hold hard stories — and hold yourself — with care.
Sometimes, stories unfold side by side—but not always in harmony.
Recently, a well-known Christian podcast released a new series exploring topics like trauma, mental illness, and abuse—many of the same themes we're addressing this year on Safe to Hope. Understandably, some of our listeners are engaging with both, and a few have already shared how conflicted or invalidated they felt.
In response, we’ve released a special bonus episode. Not to criticize, but to care. To gently offer a different perspective—one shaped by the lived experiences of survivors and informed by experts in trauma care and memory science. Whether or not you’ve heard the other podcast, this episode frames the heart of our season: why believing survivors matters, and how we hold sacred space for stories that are hard to tell.
This week on Safe to Hope, we talk about the process of storytelling, self-care, and grief, and why survivors need time, patience, and space to make sense of what they’ve been through. Carya shares how putting words to her story changed how she saw it, but also how she wrestles with grief and the need for lament. Together, we explore why survivors often feel alone in their experiences and how we, as listeners, can create a safe place for healing—without rushing to fix, minimize, or explain away the pain.
We also talk about Jesus in suffering—how He is strong yet gentle, never hurried, never harsh, and always present. If you’ve ever struggled to sit with hard truths, hold space for grief, or find hope after deep pain, this conversation is for you. Tune in and walk with us in the land of the living.
In this episode of Safe to Hope, we meet Carya, our storyteller for Season 6. Instead of starting at the beginning of her story, we begin with where she has landed—a place of deep wrestling, but also profound hope. Through the lens of Jesus is My Captain, Carya shares the mystery of suffering, the presence of Christ in unimaginable pain, and the reality that following Him is not always safe, but it is good. Her words are a testament to the severe mercy of God, who calls us not to escape suffering, but to walk with Him through it.
She thought she knew God. Then suffering came—relentless, overwhelming, and dark. In this episode of Safe to Hope, Dr. Ingrid Faro shares her journey of wrestling with evil, questioning God, and discovering a faith stronger than suffering. As we begin a season filled with hard yet necessary conversations, Dr. Faro helps us lay a foundation for understanding evil—because without that framework, we cannot fully grasp the hope that follows.
In the powerful conclusion to our series on reconciled relationships, Ann Maree invites counselor Greg Wilson and biblical counselor Darby Strickland to discuss the difficult path of healing from domestic abuse. Greg and Darby offer deep insights into recognizing God’s presence amid suffering, stressing the need for patience and the priority of addressing an abuser’s behavior before focusing on the victim’s response. They unpack the impact of trauma and urge churches to stand by victims, even when human support falls short. This conversation is a compelling reminder of God’s unwavering work, even in our brokenness.
Tune in for a powerful story of redemption, faith, and the life-changing impact of God's love. Ann Maree talks with both Charles and Renee, a couple who found healing from the depths of domestic abuse through God’s faithfulness. Renee shares how she clung to Romans 8:28 and Psalm 73:26 for comfort, while Charles describes his transformative journey inspired by 1 Peter 3:7. Together, they reveal how the Gospel renewed their hope, calling churches to address abuse with both justice and mercy.
Join us for a powerful conversation with Chris Moles, pastor and biblical counselor, who shares his deep insight into the sinister nature of domestic abuse and how it can be confronted and redeemed.
In this episode, Chris reflects on the complexities of coercive control, repentance, and the responsibility of power within relationships. He unpacks the distinct patterns of abuse, the weight of unrepented sin, and the journey from violence to gentleness. With thought-provoking analogies and real-life examples, Chris emphasizes the vital role of heart change, beyond mere behavior modification, in breaking abusive cycles.